bakadrone
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Post by bakadrone on Dec 4, 2008 12:47:09 GMT -5
I’m brand new to the forum and relatively new to the N and B server so I’ll try to avoid stepping on any toes.
When I play Assault maps, I’m an objective oriented person rather than a frag-count person. I mean, the whole point of Assault is to clear the objectives as fast as possible right? If it’s a Hold or Touch objective, I’ll often use my shield gun and try and move around like a hummingbird on crack in order to get position, with perhaps a few rockets to clear out the defenders first.
I’ve heard a few veterans voice the opinion that using a shield gun is “Noobish” and that it often denotes a lack of skill.
I tend to view it this way: My aim is generally mediocre, unless I’m having a really good day. I can’t keep up with the godlike aiming of players like ShoMeTheMoney, Calum, Silent Treatment, or various others that I forgot to mention. My biggest strength is strategy and maneuverability. I want to stick with what I’m good at.
So what do you think? Is using a shield gun noobish or is it simply another strategy to be used at a players discretion?
I realize that this forum won’t go anywhere meaningful, but I really would like to hear some opinions on this topic and I’m not enough of a sociopath to start chatting about it in the middle of a game.
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Post by *Z* ~X~}N{ on Dec 4, 2008 13:23:04 GMT -5
It's not "Noobish", without using the sheildgun it would be to easy for the defenders, on maps like TOB, where there's alot of hold objs, you need to use a sheild gun in order to get most of them. So whoever is saying that using a sheildgun is "noobish" is stating that they are whining because they can't kill you easier. I use the sheildgun as a protecter and a weapon, and not once have I been called noobish. So maybe it was just the couple people saying it are either new to unreal itself or suck very bad . Without the sheildgun most objs would be nearly impossiable, like the first obj on Awsome and ion. That obj almost everytime your gonna need to use the sheild gun.
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Post by Kethoth]>USK<[ on Dec 4, 2008 13:40:03 GMT -5
no idea who said the shield gun is noobish...when i have to cap a hold objective i use it so i don't get torn to pieces by link guns
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Post by Sniper]>USK<[ on Dec 4, 2008 13:51:44 GMT -5
I only use rox and shield on obj rox to when i come aroound the corner so that "half" of the people die and use shield to get throgh + a bit of luck and dodging
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Post by ineedhelp}N{ on Dec 4, 2008 15:20:05 GMT -5
usually for holding obs ill get my shield gun out at the last second just as i get close to the spot. As for killing with a shield gun ive never been good at it i end up missing or hitting the wall accidently (oops) but ive been using it on a few maps of late and most dont expect it so its fun In assault i dont think it matters how good your aim is its not about getting kills afterall. Sure plenty have amazing aim like the ones you mentioned but sometimes that extra bit of strategy instead of aim will go a long way. What does bore the crap out of me though is ppl camping certains spots getting a decent amount of kills and they consider themselves great at that map or weapons ...cough cough... And its nice to see you on the forums welcome
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bakadrone
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Hey relax, it's just a game
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Post by bakadrone on Dec 4, 2008 16:01:14 GMT -5
Thanks for the welcome Help. If you're talking about who I think you are, there is some truth to your statement, but remember, an excellent sniping position is nothing if you don't have the aim to back it up. I suck with a capitol S at sniping, because I'm always over-aiming and my reaction time is just a little too slow. "Certain people" or a "certain person" do usually have some of the skills to back up some of their claims. They're just a little too vocal about it. Still, a little humility goes a long way. At least that's always been my motto.
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Post by ineedhelp}N{ on Dec 4, 2008 16:26:06 GMT -5
well if your that kind of player that uses certain areas in maps people catch on quickly. For example z on CnC will drive around the outside of the base if you can slip past him on the right hand side while hes on the left hand side you have a 90% chance of scoring same goes for anyone that has a certain pattern. Its why i always change what i do where im doing it and how im doing it. Assault was the first online game type i played with UT so im still not really used to the jumping about dodging and shooting but i am improving slowly (very slowly).
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Post by ajb303}N{ on Dec 4, 2008 16:45:48 GMT -5
Haha, call me a noob, i wouldn't care. I use the shield gun anytime. I look at players who run up at an obj, stand there and shoot and sometimes wonder, "What in the world are they doing haha?". I always crouch and use the shield gun. I too am starting to get the hang of dodging this way and that way. But slower than others haha. Yes, welcome baka
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Post by (A.S.S)Phydeau on Dec 4, 2008 16:58:37 GMT -5
In a word: NO.
If you effectively succeed in a goal or take down your opponent ... there's nothing "noob" about it.
The next time you kill someone with something they don't like and they call you a noob you need to respond with, "I'm a noob? Then you were just pwned by a noob, what does that make YOU?"
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Post by soulkiller288]>USK<[ on Dec 4, 2008 17:18:00 GMT -5
dude the way you describe your tactics... you sound just like me i only worry about objectives and not fragging (unless im defending) and if some one calls you a noob, just say "then why did i get most of the objectives?' that ought to shut them up
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Post by Silent_Treatment on Dec 4, 2008 17:38:35 GMT -5
Hah. Whoever called you a noob for using the shield gun has never been presented with the task of using a link gun to stop a shielding attacker crouching on a hold obj. The shield buys you at least a second or 2 which is huge.
I do tend to "brawl" more on maps like ion because I think it helps my teammates on the obj by decreasing the enemy fire. When I run out of ammo, I go shield and jump on the obj. However, if I see that noone else is going for the obj, I will switch to just shielding on it.
It really depends on your skillset though. If I wasn't decent at deathmatching, I wouldn't be that much help in that capacity, so I would do something different. Any good team will have different players providing different types of support. It would be relatively easy to defend a hold objective if nobody ever fired a shot at the defenders. Just contribute in the best way that you can.
As far as scoring goes, I will crack a joke every now and then about score, esp if I racked up a lot of kills. However, I know as well as anyone that it is meaningless. Some player halfway down the scoreboard may have done twice as much to help the team. Shroom is the perfect example of this. You could get the 3 hardest objectives on the map (first, last coin, last obj) and only have 30 pts to show for it while the guy that sat in the base and sniped blocks or abandoned teammates to hog coins has 450.
I would say that it isn't necessarily the smartest thing to run around with the shield before you get to the obj. Just having it active uses energy which makes it less effective when you actually get there. It's better to go in covertly and pop out on the obj with a fresh shield.
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Post by Nojamforme]>USK<[ on Dec 5, 2008 8:52:27 GMT -5
All is fair in love and war.
People that generally call something "noobish" only use that as an excuse because of their inability to successfully and efficiently stop the "noobish" tactic. The shield gun is the most useful weapon in UT assault, because it is a little extra protection and it can, if the conditions are met, absorb an entire tri-rock blast or even a full shock combo(even a bad tank shot). And if you absorb the blast in the right area, it'll even bounce you to the objective, as proven numerous times in Grand-Canyon.
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Post by Bovril_Man on Dec 5, 2008 9:21:10 GMT -5
If you know how to use the weapon, then use it to your advantage. It isn't your fault if they can't take you down while using a melee weapon, just laugh at them over the mic or something if they call you "noobish" etc.
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Post by phantomvirus on Dec 5, 2008 9:34:37 GMT -5
I agree with everyone here! Even the phantom virus will use a shield gun to hold an objective. Heck people like sho and grand practically survive on the shield gun in Dust and Office since they aren't so good at balistic weapons. If they call you a noob, its because their jealous that they can't kill you. Heck my catchprase would be useless if I didn't use a shield gun cause then everyone would stop me! Remember, everything in the game can be used, unless its glitching or aim botting.
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Post by hockeyplaya00 on Dec 5, 2008 15:34:49 GMT -5
I usually try to kill because I like to enjoy a map and I am not a fan of the matches that end in 4 minutes. The only time I will really try to blast through all of the objectives is when the teams are severely jacked up which in that case I want the game to end as soon as possible.
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