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Post by fn198 on Nov 28, 2008 16:27:59 GMT -5
SERVER: Empires 2.12
Name : fn198 STEAM_0:1:3031683
theowningone
I was banned for a week a couple months ago for "griefing" and after talking to theowningone I was permanently banned.
I apologize for any threats I may have made (they were all empty and out of desperation anyways). I had been playing on nachos for a while and suddenly someone joins and bans me without question. I thought that someone'd have more respect for a regular player (not to mention a veteran of the mod) and was outraged at my ban for being one whole week. I had no intentions of affecting the game with my 9mine, I only sought to pass time while my friends joined. I apologized after the team was upset (even though we did not harm the comm, or impede his movement or ability to play). Apparently an apology and an explanation werent enough. theowningone claims he saw me 9mine the com and did not confront me or warn me about a ban although the situation was far from dire. Any hint of hysteria was short lived and pure misunderstanding.
Drummer suggested I post here. I would like to be unbanned please.
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Post by Saga on Nov 29, 2008 2:58:49 GMT -5
We will look into this. Be patient please. Asshats we don't tolerate. Mistakes we can.
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Post by Kethoth]>USK<[ on Nov 30, 2008 2:15:27 GMT -5
For the time being this ban will stay in place. You were attempting to "blow up" your own team's CV w/ mines and then when you were time banned you argued w/ the admin about it. But if I may, I'd like to quote my favorite line from this conversation:
I do not appreciate it when players threaten this community's admins/server.
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Post by fn198 on Nov 30, 2008 4:13:47 GMT -5
to which I provided you with
to which I provided you with
if you don't understand what I mean by that, I'm saying: I was not attempting to flip the comm, or grief the game.
I would like to know what you mean by the "time being". It has already been more than two months. I've apologized many times for not dealing with theowningone tactfully and I'm not going to root the forums, or ddos the dedi either. I just want an unban.
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9mining the comm is not even in the Empires server rules. I was not trapping the comm with walls, nor was I damaging it, or causing it any harm. It is not griefing by definition. I was, however, banned for it thus the reason for my outrage at theowningone. I'd never been banned from any empires 2.0/2.12 server since it came out last year. My name is fairly popular, and I'm a valuable player (I'm even an admin on the empires training server). I didn't expect to get banned in a matter of seconds due to mob hysteria. When it did happen you can imagine how upset I was.
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Post by Filak613 on Nov 30, 2008 11:03:09 GMT -5
I would like to bring up the fact that you also directly insulted the admin that had banned you and than had other people from within the server insult and verbally attack him. As "small" as you see this offence I don't think it is only the server/community you need to appeal to. It would be in your best intrest to apologize to Owning for what was said to him as it was well let us just say not the nicest of things. And no I don't want you to "beg him to play on the server again" like everyone claims. I would like to see a simple apology for the verbal abuse from yourself though.
This ban can be lifted in a week from when this takes place. But good sir let me say if you are caught trying to 9 mine the CV again no matter if you are "merely messing around" the ban won't be lifted. Yes we may seem like asses that are way to strict but what we do works and it makes a gaming enviroment that people don't have to worry about griefing as much and can focus and play on the game.
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Post by fn198 on Nov 30, 2008 13:59:52 GMT -5
For the record, I did not have my subordinates enter the server to harass theowningone. I asked them to join to petition theowningone to unban me. The way I saw it was as a hysterical misunderstanding.
Canuckman, was not told to profanely address theowningone at any point, and did so on his own accord. I do not wish for the reputation of my friend Schoolboy and I to be tarnished by his acts. He was demoted for disrespecting theowningone.
Personally, I felt insulted by the policies of this server. Many people claim that Nachos is too ban happy. The admins don't just ban frequently, it seems they often ban without question. Many people take these kinds of bans as insults, and feel upset.
He has insulted me and I may have done the same to him. I only felt the need to after he refused to listen to me and told me he was looking into the logs. It was ironic how little effort he took to decide on banning me and how much it took for him to reverse his decision. It felt like getting interrogated at gitmo for saying bomb out of context at a concert. Dealing with systems and bureaucracies is a very excruciating task, and having to deal with them in a VIDEO GAME is unexpectedly painful. I hope you can understand how I did not feel able to apologize in my conversation with theowningone right after I was banned (although in the logs you can see I apologized and swore I wouldnt play with the com anymore before I got banned).
I had personally apologized to theowningone before I posted this. I tried doing everything before posting on this board. Google 'Nachos and Juicebox' and FN198 is the first hit.
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Post by Filak613 on Nov 30, 2008 15:41:00 GMT -5
Okay for one....
You went to another website to "pregnant dog" about our server. Tell me how that isn't being disrepectful? I don't know but when someone calls me "ban-happy" because I enforce the rules the community set forth on a server that well seems pretty d**n popular. Funny how everyone bitches about our rules and still the server is popular. Also funny how everyone complains when someone is griefing but when "they are just screwing around" it is perfectly fine.
This ban will be lifted in one week. If you ever pull this crap again you will be permanently banned. I know you're "upset that we were so disrepectful to such a prominant player" within the Empires community. But let us clear one thing up. This server is privately owned and operated. I pay for this server out of my own pocket. And yes you can call me a dictator all you want and talk all kinds of crap on other boards. I don't care. We have rules and those rules need to be followed under whatever the circumstances. If you don't like it than sorry to say I don't recommend you play on our servers.
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Post by fn198 on Nov 30, 2008 18:14:24 GMT -5
I'm glad we could come to a resolution, Filak613.
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